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Re: Thrilling action with the 737
Reply #45 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 8:11pm
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I saw that house. Must be a very lonely but noise resistant person living there.  Huh

Here's how my approach worked out.



Lots of NDB navigation from BIKF.
Descent went fine, few clouds, no icing trouble.
Altitude at RE NDB was fine and I caught the localizer with the HDG select as I think the AP is a bit sluggish at times.
Descending on the localizer track, hazard beacon came up, waited for that 258° bearing and started the visual part.
Good weather, so what could possibly happen?

FO Erm, looks pretty tight going into that valley.
Captain Don't worry, I got this.
FO Ok.

Captain Flaps 40, we'll stick to Vref plus 10.

FO Erm, it still looks pretty tight.
Captain I said, I got this!

Later, a bit more into the valley.

Captain Geezus, it looks pretty tight!  Shocked You should have told me!
FO  Huh

Captain It was an honour flying with you.
FO What!?! What do you mean 'was'?

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It looks easy on the videos, but I had to keep at least 140kts and the turn was a turn only FSX allows for.  Cheesy
Nice rw video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv_c6vA8DXE
  
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Re: Thrilling action with the 737
Reply #46 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 8:18pm
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Good luck.
As Lou said, watch your turns, you have to adjust your speed to execute 30 degrees banks. If your plane goes ahead of you, full power climb. Cheesy
If you have to land RW 26. Make sure, use the side slip for touchdown.

Oh!..I forgot to tell you. I watched video. Its excellent. Very good planing for land. I wonder if I say to this pilot I am trying to land RW26 with CS-727,... I think he will hit my head with a stick. Come on, does he knows what a brave Simpilots  are,....Suddenly I feel  all airport crowd looking at us and father saying to his children do you see this sim-pilot..that is a pilot, we should admire. (wow, I felt second stick hit on my head. ) Cheesy D Cheesy
  
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Re: Thrilling action with the 737
Reply #47 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 8:38pm
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CRM in action...

FO Erm, looks pretty tight going into that valley.

Captain Don't worry, I got this.

FO Ok.




Wonderful NDB to BIIS! We used to fly NDB's in the 727, but nothing like this.
I've tried this in a number of different planes, but the one I'm most comfortable in is the Twin Otter & the C-130.
The rate of turn is the key to this approach. Since the Twin Otter is approaching at 60 knots it's no sweat.
The 737 is really too fast for this turn to final. Even at a very light weight your still on the very edge.

I'll look around, I'm sure there are more airports like this.

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Reply #48 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 9:04pm
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Yeah, best CRM. Like in the movies.  Cheesy

Well, I came in at 44t GW and there was no way I did get my turn rates to match the approach. I've looked at that video and checked the landmarks that Fokker 50 passes by. Then I've tried the 737 again and flew, then slewed back when I was wrong, then flew again, just to quickly check if I can make it.
As said, some 140kts were needed with the flaps at full and only FSX allowed to turn at much slower speeds or go way over 30° bank.

As for other approaches, I had a nice one into RJTT Tokyo Henada. There's an offset localizer or VOR approach coming in through the Tokyo bay. If you fail and overshoot, the Kawasaki petroleum arrangement is close.  Cheesy



I have some freeware for Tokyo city and airport, so that's the main attraction there, having that view when flying the bay. The turn and things will be easy for big planes, so the flying itself isn't near that Iceland challenge.

The above chart is a bit older than the current airport. Now, they have that extra runway (23) on the artificial island, that's the one with an offset localizer or some nice RNAV curves. The freeware offers that runway and the bridges connecting it to the rest of the airport.

  
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Reply #49 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 12:33am
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That is some great scenery...not to mention a great bird.
  
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Reply #50 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 1:17am
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OK!....
I accomplished the BIIS Rw26 landings with CS727-100. It took me good practice to achive touch down safely.

For my luck, There were no one at airport to see it and unfortunately  NO applause,too. At least some peanuts for return flight,

1-Turning final, Not much space, Watch mountain edges
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8205/biisfinal.jpg

2-The trick is to make a proper side slip to lineup with runway
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7919/biislanding.jpg

3-Mission accomplished
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2702/biiscompleted.jpg
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Reply #51 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 1:49am
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Now that is some good flying! Cool

Must of felt like this....



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Re: Thrilling action with the 737
Reply #52 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 8:32am
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Cool stuff, Ahmet.  Smiley Would you say rw26 is easier than rw08 with that turn?
asanal wrote on Aug 21st, 2012 at 1:17am:
OK!....
For my luck, There were no one at airport to see it and unfortunately  NO applause,too. At least some peanuts for return flight

Grin

And for Lou. How many carrier landings did you perform with the 747 yet? Don't tell me you haven't tried.  Cheesy
  
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Reply #53 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 9:06am
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zamoritasj wrote on Aug 21st, 2012 at 12:33am:
That is some great scenery...not to mention a great bird.

Very true!  Smiley
  
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Reply #54 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 6:33pm
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"Would you say rw26 is easier than rw08 with that turn?"

My opinion with flying 727, 08 approach specially downwind turn to base need very careful speed/bank calculation to  not over shut the final, but you have a better  chance  to manage it, then 26  turn to SHORT final.

26 downwind/base less stress, then 08. But, you need well calculated timing/speed/bank angle  in very short time to turn and execute  short final to make  the runway. Cheesy
  
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Reply #55 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 7:52pm
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Status message: After incident at rw08, CoolP now flies helicopters.
  
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Reply #56 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 11:16pm
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No.NO....you will succeed. don't give up. Smiley

  
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Reply #57 - Aug 22nd, 2012 at 2:57pm
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Ok, will do. Are you still on some nice approaches, Ahmet?
  
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Reply #58 - Aug 22nd, 2012 at 6:09pm
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I made some approaches BIIS RW08  with CS737-200,but I have a problem with rudder. It does not turn fully either side . I thought maybe some thing wrong with FSX control settings, I checked all correct P&Dg 737 rudder turning freely to either directions.
Now I made my approach with CS-727-200 to RW08. I don't think it is vise idea to fly 727 to BIIS. Only way I found approach can be stabilize if you approach to RW08 right  side of the hill.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3717/biis08final.jpg

Now you have to decent very quickly and without  gaining  speed (Goodluck) Shocked

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/865/biisshortf.jpg

Then land.....
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2702/biiscompleted.jpg http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1390/biiscomp3.jpg Cheesy

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Reply #59 - Aug 22nd, 2012 at 7:53pm
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CoolP said: And for Lou. How many carrier landings did you perform with the 747 yet? Don't tell me you haven't tried.

Well, the gauntlet has been thrown!  Roll Eyes

First thing I did was get rid of fuel and payload. Then I set the wind at 050/34 knots. I'd have put more, but that's all FSX will let me do.
I don't know how to make the ship move so that is all I can get to reduce the ground speed.



On short final, speed and sink good. It's gusty, but I'm holding around 125 knots.



Flare good, solid touchdown.



Full brakes!  Shocked



BOLTER BOLTER BOLTER!!!  Embarrassed



%#@&^%, blub, blub, blub.....  Grin  Cheesy  Wink

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