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Question regarding FPS
Jun 12th, 2012 at 5:20pm
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I was thinking about purchasing the 737 but i wanted to know how is the frame rate compared to what you get with the 707,767,757?

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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #1 - Jun 14th, 2012 at 3:54am
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The 737 offers the best framerates on my system so far. Even better than the 707 and way lighter than 757 and 767 (mind they have an FMC and 'glass', which eats fps). Due to the very high resolution textures, you shouldn't run her with a low amount of video RAM though. That's the only limit I could think of.
  
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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #2 - Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:58am
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CoolP wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 3:54am:
The 737 offers the best framerates on my system so far. Even better than the 707 and way lighter than 757 and 767 (mind they have an FMC and 'glass', which eats fps). Due to the very high resolution textures, you shouldn't run her with a low amount of video RAM though. That's the only limit I could think of.

Same for me.
  

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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #3 - Jun 14th, 2012 at 4:09pm
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Thanks for your answers guys! what do you think of my specs? will they be sufficent to you?
core 2 duo T5800 @2GHz
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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #4 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 4:01am
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Not a big system there, but are you running any other addon planes so far? It's hard to judge the system, so I'm looking for a comparison. The 737 isn't really hard on the frames, but I don't know how the textures and maybe some addon scenery of yours add up on e.g. those 512mb of video ram with the mobile GPU.
Well, in general, the planes without any FMC and digital displays should be the best in terms of fps.

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You could do a test. Download the 707 demo and see how it does. http://www.captainsim.com/products/x707/demo.html It's no 737, but it may act as a good test since it comes with the textures and things. The 737 should be lighter on your system, so if the 707 runs ok, the 737 will most likely do too.
  
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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #5 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 1:48pm
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I own the following CS planes : 707, 757, 767 I'm satisfied by their performances on my system. I don't use any high quality payware scenery only a few freeware, my fsx.cfg is tweaked and the default textures of fsx were changed for lighter ones IIRC

That would be nice if CS put a "real" demo for the 737 not just the exterior model...
  

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Oh, so you already have the 707? Well, if that one works fast enough, there's no problem to be expected with the 737.  Smiley
  
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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 2:11pm
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Well, well...


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I purchased the 737...and it looks promising! Now I'ill have to learn how to use it!
Regarding the fps I'm very satisfied but we will see as my tests of the aircraft progress
  

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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #8 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 4:49pm
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Looks good! Hope you get a lot of joy with it.

The 737 is fun for flying short flights. I mostly fly 2 - 2.5 hours in it. I have done a few flights in the 4 - 4.5 hour range as well.
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 8:45am
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I'm glad reading about a good impression. Means we don't have to feel remorse now when recommending the plane as being fps friendly.  Cheesy

I have a stupid question though. What happened to the paint on your second screenshot? Not the one from the 737 (that one is cool) but from the pushback tug. It has sprinkles now.  Shocked

As for the 737 itself, make sure to check out the free addon gauge giving you a tuned flight model and some FO callouts and things. It helps on the preparations. http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1337557332
  
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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 10:54am
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@markoz:
I flew a few legs with it and it was really short haul like less than an hour (the shortest being Marseille-Barcelona not even 500km I think), I really love that plane!

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I'm glad reading about a good impression. Means we don't have to feel remorse now when recommending the plane as being fps friendly.

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I have a stupid question though. What happened to the paint on your second screenshot? Not the one from the 737 (that one is cool) but from the pushback tug. It has sprinkles now.

I don't know, as far as i can remember the airport vehicules always had these sprinkles, and I don't want to reinstall my fsx just for a few sprinkles.

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As for the 737 itself, make sure to check out the free addon gauge giving you a tuned flight model and some FO callouts and things. It helps on the preparations.

Already did! it's an awesome addition!
  

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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #11 - Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:44am
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passeur wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 10:54am:
@markoz:
I don't know, as far as i can remember the airport vehicules always had these sprinkles, and I don't want to reinstall my fsx just for a few sprinkles.

I have my vehicles turned off, so I couldn't even tell how they look like.  Grin Well, it just caught my eye on that screenshot.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 12th, 2012 at 4:30pm
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I want to add though, this plane does not like old hardware.
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Reply #13 - Sep 12th, 2012 at 4:42pm
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Hahaha, I've just read your user title and signature, Pete.  Grin Lets hope the FSX impression gets better with your hardware update.

Well, I think she (the plane) does well on the fps. Lets hope the OP is still happy since he is running some older hardware. But you (now) have fancy new stuff, right? Should work extremely well in my eyes.
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 12th, 2012 at 6:35pm
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It should. Been saving for a long time. The GTX 670 though is the best bit. On my older computer(AMD athlon Dual 5200 2.7Ghz and 9400GT), I could manage 10-15 FPS in the CS 737 VC, keep in mind, I had no weather, medium to low scenery, no AI either. With this newer computer, I don't think I'll have any of these problems again. It is odd though as planes like the CS 707 performed extremely well. It is odd as the 707 likes older hardware. But the best plane for FPS is the new BAe146(not the Avro released, the other one).
It is odd to find some work much better than others.
But I just got fed up with bad performance, so I thought I'd save up. Also to do tri monitor. I have big plans for the future.
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Reply #15 - Sep 12th, 2012 at 9:45pm
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Hmmm - My experience is the opposite of the previous members. The 737 gives me terrible FPS (usually about 6-7) whereas the 707, 727, 767 all work fine and I can get up to 21 fps. I have my system limited internally and externally to 22 fps for reasons other than hardware.

I have had all sorts of glitches and problems with the 737 even though I have reinstalled it twice and run the repair several times. At a large capital city aerodrome (e.g Sydney, Melbourne etc) it just about brings the system to a halt even though the other Capt Sim  models work just fine with no glitches. The issues are always graphics.

I run a 4GB RAM Dual Core 64 Bit system with a 2GB Video Card (all HP) with Bojote tweaks and FPS limiters.

But I still really like the 737 it is fun to fly and a really nice model apart from the fixes and problems already identified in the wish list and fixes needed. I just find it a pain in the rear to get going properly.
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 13th, 2012 at 6:57am
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I think it sits around how much RAM you have. FSX would like RAM if it could.
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Reply #17 - Sep 13th, 2012 at 6:57am
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Yes I'm inclined to agree
Actually. I have pretty much the same specs and all my other aircraft run so much better!
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 13th, 2012 at 7:29am
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I get great frame rates with the 737. Better than I do with the 707, 757, 767 and 777. Weird! Undecided
  

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Reply #19 - Sep 13th, 2012 at 9:30am
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I concluded a long time ago that it is about the age of your hardware. On my old computer, I could obtain 20FPS in the 707 VC, while in the CS 737 only 10. However, I never really got good FPS with the 757 or 767. B-52 was good though.
It should not cost too much to get some  more ram.
  

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Reply #20 - Sep 13th, 2012 at 1:54pm
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Pete your right FSX is a pain in the proverbial. I have heaps of RAM and dual core 64 bit system but FSX is realy an MS XP program not a true 64 bit multi-core program. I tried getting windows to pretend it was and make it compatible with WIN 7 but that just produced more problems than it was worth, so I reset it. I recently installed a series of updates from MS which produced some pretty stuffed windows behaviour (the draw part not the programs) it has taken all night to resolve the problems including a system restore. Boy am I tired of this sort of crap from MS.

I am getting ready to migrate across to PREPAR3D and hopefully kiss good bye to FSX I know I will not be able to run a few of the aircraft in my hangar but really at this point I don't care I just want a reliable and stable system and program that is updated properly.

As for the FPS, go figure, I can't work it out, I have fiddled with just about everything I can think of including the FPS limiter internal and external, all I know is that my system technically is capable of unlimited but gets the jitterbugs real bad so I keep it limited to 22 fps internally and 30 externally. For some reason that seems to work for me.

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Reply #21 - Sep 13th, 2012 at 3:08pm
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I have been thinking of P3D. I will probably get it. You would be stupid not to, and then get the P3D port over program.
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Reply #22 - Sep 14th, 2012 at 5:12am
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The advantage to migrating to P3D (IMO) is that it will get better as time goes by. And because it's core is FSX, it should not be too hard for the developers of addons for FSX to move them across to P3D (like other devs are already starting to do). It would be great if Captain Sim did too, not tthat it matters too much, I am able to use most, if not all, of their addons in P3D (with a little tweaking).
  

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Re: Question regarding FPS
Reply #23 - Oct 10th, 2012 at 3:38am
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A small word about fps in FSX.
For those who do not know, there is a freeware soft called GameBooster.
This program is fully configurable, is able to shut redundant services and background tasks, clear memory and so on.
On my computer when i run GB, FSX is running considerably faster, sometimes even close to 10fps more than before.
Definitely this soft is worth of trying at least.

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